Posts by Coded Logic

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Perfect response

by Cerise in

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i was hoping to get some advice on what to say to a parent who wouldn’t support you to get married to a “worldy person”.

always bringing up “marry only in the lord” even when that hasnt worked out for the parent, twice divorced lol.

is there a way to discredit that scripture or argue back respectfully without giving away that you are pimo?.

Sometimes it's best to stand up for what you believe in. There's nothing wrong with saying, I believe that marriage between two people is greater than any finite set of religious beliefs. I believe that "marry in the lord" is not strictly limited to only those who ascribe to JW theology. I believe it's not 'a god" or "gods" that keep two people together but rather the substance and the dedication of their love that makes a marriage work. I've seen non-believers married for decades and I've seen JWs who are only married for a few short years. And I believe that exposing yourself only to those who agree with you is a pathway to failure. It stunts our emotional growth and greatly limits the awesome range of the human experience.

etc.

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Michael Cohen... sleazebag or patriot?

by Queequeg in

so, what do you think?

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fwiw, i say sleazebag....

Coded Logic

It's all pantomime at this point. The 2020 election will happen before they get to any impeachment effort even if they ever summon up the will to do so.

I honestly don't see what your objection is. Just because it may take a while to impeach Trump doesn't mean it's not worth doing. If Trump cheated to get into office - if he broke campaign finance laws paying off porn stars and/or if he conspired with the Russians to influence the elections - than he should be kicked out of office regardless if it's his first term or his second term.

Just because it may take some time to right a wrong doesn't mean it's not worth making the effort to do so. Congress has a responsibility to provide checks and balances on the Executive Branch. And I think we're all better off if we can get to the bottom of this. If Trump is innocent, than his name can be cleared and we can move on. If he broke the law, than he should be removed from office.

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Michael Cohen... sleazebag or patriot?

by Queequeg in

so, what do you think?

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fwiw, i say sleazebag....

Coded Logic

I definitely DON'T think Cohen is a patriot. But I do think his testimony shone a light on the mob like nature of our President. And I think it was a disgusting display of tribalism by the Republican's who attacked Cohen over and over again to try and provide cover for their guy instead of providing a check or balance on the executive branch like they're supposed to.

Cohen has already been prosecuted and convicted. Nobody want's our tax dollars wasted in Congress re-litigating Cohen's felonies. However, what we do want is an honest assessment and discovery process of the the President's corrupt and illegal actions.

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Babies Who Are Not Dead From An Abortion

by minimus in

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friends

a woman gets an abortion.

the baby is supposed to die because of the abortion but doesn’t.

should that living baby be put to death or should the baby be given medical help to survive?.

Coded Logic

Termination of a pregnancy means the women no longer wishes to be pregnant - but it says nothing about what happens to the child after it's removed. With current technology, a late term baby can be kept alive outside of the womb.

Women have a right over their own bodies. But when the baby is removed from the body - I believe we as a society have an obligation to step in and save the baby if we can.

But allow me to ask you a question, if a women has a baby should we pass legislation that she absolutely has to keep the child? Or would our society be better off if we supported institutions that cared for and found homes for children put up for adoption?

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Babies Who Are Not Dead From An Abortion

by minimus in

jw
friends

a woman gets an abortion.

the baby is supposed to die because of the abortion but doesn’t.

should that living baby be put to death or should the baby be given medical help to survive?.

Coded Logic

In regards to the OP, I think a women should have the right to terminate a pregnancy at any point. And I also think that if the infant is viable at the time of termination we should do everything we can to save that infant. Perhaps in the future artificial wombs will give us the ability to save all aborted children regardless of what trimester the mother was in.

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Allergic to Kingdom Hall

by Cerise in

does anyone else know of a person who has such a sensitive nose or bad allergy that they are allergic to the paint or interior of the kingdom hall somehow and they can’t go inside?

and that person doesn’t even switch halls they “listen on the phone” all the time.

i know of a couple people like that.

Coded Logic

A lot of the women in my church (sisters in the Kingdom Hall) would wear perfume that set off my allergies. I think for many this is a real thing.

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If The Mueller Report Doesn’t Prove Trump Colluded With The Russians They Will Still Claim Trump Is Guilty!

by minimus in

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friends

it’s already happening.

they just can’t move on..

Coded Logic

I definitely understand your disdain for political bias - especially when it comes to our justice system. But I don't think that's the case when it comes to the origins of Mueller's investigation. Allow me to give you two pieces of information that may change your mind:

1.) It did NOT begin with the Steele Dossier. Rather, the investigation began in May of 2016 when George Papadopoulos was bragging to an Australian official about how the Russians had political dirt on Hillary Clinton. The Australians then provided that information to FBI who opened a counter intelligence investigation. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/how-fbi-russia-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html
2.) Much of the Russian Dossier has been confirmed. https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/07/politics/dossier-two-years-later/index.html

Mueller is an honorable man and a dead serious prosecutor. He will give no leniency nor quarter to political bias.

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If The Mueller Report Doesn’t Prove Trump Colluded With The Russians They Will Still Claim Trump Is Guilty!

by minimus in

jw
friends

it’s already happening.

they just can’t move on..

Coded Logic

Honestly, I don't know why you're calling them "my people" but I strongly believe that no one should be above the law. And, regardless of political party, everyone should be held to the same legal standard.

I think we can all agree that calling Secretary Clinton ugly doesn't make President Trump any prettier. And, if it came out that Hillary committed some horrible crime - it would in no way exonerate Donald from the vast and sprawling legal problems he currently faces.

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If The Mueller Report Doesn’t Prove Trump Colluded With The Russians They Will Still Claim Trump Is Guilty!

by minimus in

jw
friends

it’s already happening.

they just can’t move on..

Coded Logic

Let's not forget, Nixon didn't order the break in to the Watergate building. But he did get nailed for obstruction of justice while trying to protect his cronies.

I think, at the very least, the same thing will happen with Trump - even if there's not a clear cut case that Trump was in on the conspiracy - Trump will still get crucified for having tried to interfere in the investigation with corrupt intent.

And, beyond the Special Counsels Office, Trump still faces tremendous legal jeopardy for a whole host of issues including:

Violations of Campaign Finance laws (with regards to the porn stars he paid off)
Violations of Campaign Finance laws (with regards to his Inauguration Committee)
Violations of the Emoluments Clause
Money laundering through his non-profit Trump Foundation
and tax evasion and bank fraud through the Trump Organisation

I'm sure I'm missing a few more - but you get the point. Trump's legal woes don't end with Mueller.

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I Wouldn’t Be Surprised If The USA Had Another Civil War!

by minimus in

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friends

i have never seen this country so divided.

something is going to give.

they is such a lack of recognition for the law.

Coded Logic

Trump just said that people who hold signs saying "resist" can't even say what they're resisting.

This guys so out of touch with the American people it's absurd. He needs to stop golfing and he needs to START engaging with the American people. This is what happens when someone who's never worked a hard day's work in his life gets into office and can't be bothered to read a single briefing.

The people are resisting a President that habitually spouts fake news.

They're resisting an administration that constantly lies.

They're resisting the toxic political environment Trump has created.

They're resisting his expanding swamp in Washington.

They're resisting racism, sexism, and cultural intolerance.

They're resisting the class warfare that has been waged on the poor and the middle class. They're resisting so many things. It's time for Trump to wake up because their's NOT going to be a civil war. There's going to be a blue wave going to knock the Republican party out of power for the next decade or two.